MidCap Financial (MFIC) Earnings Call Transcript

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Date

Friday, Feb. 27, 2026 at 8:30 a.m. ET

Call participants -

Chief Executive Officer — Tanner Powell

President — Ted McNulty

Chief Financial Officer — Kenneth Seifert

Executive Chairman — Howard Widra

Senior Advisor — Gregory Hunt

Investor Relations Manager — Elizabeth Besen

Takeaways -

Net Investment Income (NII) Per Share -- $0.39 for the quarter.

GAAP Net Loss Per Share -- $0.14, including $0.04 of one-time financing expenses; $0.10 excluding these items.

Net Asset Value (NAV) Per Share -- $14.18 at quarter end, a decrease of 3.3% from the prior quarter, attributed mainly to older vintage investments.

Total Investment Commitments -- $141 million across 26 transactions this quarter.

Net Funded Activity -- +$25 million, including $7.5 million repaid by Merx.

Merx Portfolio Exposure -- $103 million at fair value at period end, comprising 3% of total portfolio value; subsequent $22 million repaid post quarter, for $29.5 million total.

New Stock Repurchase Authorization -- $100 million approved and expected to be “utilize[d] aggressively,” with $107.9 million in total capacity remaining.

Shares Repurchased -- 1.1 million shares bought back at an average 18% discount to NAV, costing $12.9 million and generating $0.03 per share of NAV accretion.

Quarterly Dividend Declared -- $0.31 per share, adjusted “to reflect changes to base rates and other factors.”

Total Investment Income -- $78.4 million, down $4.2 million or 5.1% from previous quarter, mainly due to lower base rates, higher non-accruals, and asset spread compression.

Portfolio Fair Value -- $3.17 billion invested across 247 companies in 46 industries at quarter end.

Direct Origination Portfolio Composition -- 99% first lien loans and 92% backed by financial sponsors by fair value.

Weighted Average Yield at Cost (Direct Origination) -- 10% during the quarter, down from 10.3% prior quarter, with the drop attributed to rate and spread compression as well as higher non-accruals.

Software Exposure -- 11.4% of total portfolio at fair value, entirely first lien, diversified over 29 borrowers, with a low average loan-to-value of 32%.

Non-Accrual Investments -- 2.6% of portfolio at fair value, down from 3.1% prior quarter, with three new names (Bird Rides, Banner Solutions, Renovo) placed on non-accrual and two companies restored to accrual status.

Average Borrower Net Leverage -- 5.29x, unchanged sequentially; portfolio interest coverage ratio improved from 2.2x to 2.3x due to lower base rates and some earnings growth.

Cost of Debt -- 5.95% during the quarter, improved from 6.37% last quarter following refinancing.

Net Leverage -- 1.45x at period end; total principal debt was $2.0 billion and net assets stood at $1.31 billion.

PIK Income Proportion -- 4.8% of total investment income, roughly stable quarter over quarter.

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Risks -

Portfolio NAV declined by 3.3% driven mainly by vintage investments from 2022 and prior, with CEO Powell noting, “The decline in NAV is primarily driven by a handful of investments, predominantly from 2022 and earlier vintages.”

Asset spread compression, lower base rates, and higher non-accruals contributed to a $4.2 million (5.1%) drop in total investment income, which CFO Seifert said was “largely driven by lower interest income resulting from decreased base rates, new non-accrual positions, and continued asset spread compression.”

Three new non-accruals (Bird Rides, Banner Solutions, Renovo) accounted for about 36% of the quarter’s total net loss.

Dividend was reduced, with Powell stating, “it was prudent to adjust the dividend,” citing the effects of falling base rates and tighter market spreads on earnings power.

Summary

MidCap Financial Investment Corporation (NASDAQ:MFIC) reported a quarter marked by reduced investment income, compressed asset spreads, and several legacy investment losses impacting net asset value. Management announced an expanded $100 million share repurchase program and emphasized aggressive execution at significant NAV discounts. Portfolio composition remains heavily weighted toward first lien, sponsor-backed loans across a granular and diversified base, while software exposure is limited and largely protected by covenants and low leverage. Three new non-accruals drove a significant share of the quarter’s net loss, while sequential leverage and interest coverage ratios held steady or improved slightly.

Chairman Widra stated, “we will continue to consider everything with an eye towards just making sure that the shareholders get the full value that we feel like they are entitled to in whatever form we can get it to them,” indicating openness to further strategic alternatives in response to persistent stock discounts.

Software portfolio average leverage and covenant penetration were highlighted by management as key differentiators versus the broader market.

Maturing asset vintages and sector-specific idiosyncratic problems underlie current credit stresses, as highlighted in management’s response to investor Q&A.

Leadership expects the remaining stock buyback capacity to be fully deployed by late May if current trends continue.

Industry glossary -

PIK: Payment-in-Kind; a loan feature where interest is paid in additional securities rather than cash.

Non-Accrual: A loan status indicating the borrower is not making scheduled interest or principal payments, triggering a suspension of income accrual on such investments.

First Lien: The most senior secured debt in a borrower’s capital structure, with priority claim on collateral in a default.

Direct Origination: Lending activity where loans are sourced and structured directly by the asset manager rather than purchased in the secondary market.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Operator: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the earnings conference call for the period ended December 31, 2025 for MidCap Financial Investment Corporation. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode. The call will be open for a question-and-answer session following the speaker's prepared remarks. If you would like to ask a question at that time, please press star one on your telephone. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star two. I will now turn the call over to Ms. Elizabeth Besen, Investor Relations Manager for MidCap Financial Investment Corporation. Please go ahead, ma'am.

Elizabeth Besen: Thank you, operator, and thank you everyone for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in MidCap Financial Investment Corporation. Speaking on today's call are Tanner Powell, Chief Executive Officer, Ted McNulty, President, and Kenneth Seifert, Chief Financial Officer. Howard Widra, Executive Chairman, and Gregory Hunt, our former CFO, who currently serves as a Senior Advisor, are on the call and available for the Q&A portion of today's call. I would like to advise everyone that today's call and webcast are being recorded. Please note that they are the property of MidCap Financial Investment Corporation and that any unauthorized broadcast in any form is strictly prohibited. Information about the audio replay of this call is available in our press release.

I would also like to call your attention to the customary safe harbor disclosure in our press release regarding forward-looking information. Today's conference call and webcast, which may include forward-looking statements. You should refer to our most recent filings with the SEC for risks that apply to our business and that may adversely affect any forward-looking statements we make. We do not undertake to update our forward-looking statements or projections unless required by law. To obtain copies of our SEC filings, please visit either the SEC's website at www.sec.gov or our website at www.midcapfinancialic.com.

I would also like to remind everyone that we posted a supplemental financial information package on our website, which contains information about the portfolio as well as the company's financial performance. Throughout today's call, we will refer to MidCap Financial Investment Corporation as MidCap Financial Investment Corporation, and we will use MidCap Financial to refer to the lender headquartered in Bethesda, Maryland. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Tanner Powell, MidCap Financial Investment Corporation's Chief Executive Officer.

Tanner Powell: Thank you, Elizabeth. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for MidCap Financial Investment Corporation's fourth quarter and year-end earnings conference call. Yesterday, after market close, we issued our press release and filed our annual Form 10-K for the period ended December 31, 2025. I will begin today's call with an overview of MidCap Financial Investment Corporation's fourth quarter results, followed by a discussion of our share repurchase activity, including the board's increased authorization, as well as our dividend announcement. Following that, I will hand the call over to Ted, who will walk through our investment activity for the quarter and provide a portfolio update, including a review of our software exposure.

Kenny will review our financial results in detail.

Net investment income, or NII, per share for the quarter was $0.39. GAAP net loss per share for the quarter was $0.14. This figure includes approximately $0.04 of one-time financing-related expenses. When excluding these one-time costs, GAAP net loss per share was $0.10 for the quarter. NAV per share was $14.18 at the end of December, down 3.3% compared to the prior quarter. The decline in NAV is primarily driven by a handful of investments, predominantly from 2022 and earlier vintages. Despite the loss for this quarter, we believe our focus on first lien positions, our cautious usage of PIK, and low software exposure keep us well-positioned.

Additionally, recent paydowns from Merx and the full repayment of a position on non-accrual demonstrate our ability to maximize recoveries on challenged credits.

During the December quarter, MidCap Financial Investment Corporation made $141 million of new commitments across 26 transactions. Net funded activity for the quarter was positive $25 million, which included a $7.5 million repayment from Merx. At the end of December, MidCap Financial Investment Corporation's investment in Merx totaled approximately $103 million at fair value, representing 3% of the portfolio fair value. Close going to quarter end in February, Merx repaid an additional $22 million to MidCap Financial Investment Corporation for a total amount of $29.5 million. Let me remind you about what remains in Merx. MidCap Financial Investment Corporation's remaining investment in Merx consists of four aircraft, plus the value associated with Merx's servicing platform.

Merx earns income through its servicing activities from Navigator, Apollo's dedicated aircraft leasing fund, which currently owns 38 aircraft. Having deployed its equity commitments, Navigator is in the harvest period; as such, the fund is opportunistically monetizing assets to optimize fund level returns. Merx receives a remarketing fee on each aircraft sale. At the end of December, the servicing business represented approximately 29% of the total value of Merx. The servicing component of Merx will naturally decline as servicing income is received.

Apollo's long-standing commitment has been to deliver positive outcomes in all instances where we manage investor capital. With respect to the public vehicles we manage across different asset classes, we have been active in evaluating potential strategies and options with the objective of maximizing realizable value for stockholders. During the fourth quarter, the market presented us with what we viewed as an attractive opportunity to repurchase our stock at a significant discount to NAV. We repurchased approximately 1.1 million shares at an average discount of 18% for an aggregate cost of $12.9 million, generating approximately $0.03 per share of NAV accretion.

At these trading levels, we continue to believe allocating capital towards stock repurchases is more accretive than deploying capital into new investments. Accordingly, the board has authorized a new $100 million stock repurchase plan, which we expect to utilize aggressively in combination with a 10b5-1 trading plan to capitalize on what we believe is a compelling opportunity for our stockholders. This is in addition to our existing share repurchase authorization, of which approximately $7.9 million of repurchase capacity remains. Accordingly, MidCap Financial Investment Corporation now has $107.9 million available for stock repurchase. If the current discount continues and the trading volumes remain in their current range, we anticipate fully utilizing our current authorization by late May.

Importantly, we believe MidCap Financial Investment Corporation's investment portfolio is extremely well-positioned, consisting of primarily true first lien loans with granular position sizes and limited tech and software expenditures. We remain convinced that the current market price does not appropriately reflect the intrinsic value of MidCap Financial Investment Corporation's high quality investment portfolio. We do not anticipate these stock repurchases will result in any material increase in our net leverage, given our visibility into expected repayments.

Moving to the dividend. In light of the changes to base rates and other factors, we have reassessed the long-term earning power of the company, and the board has concluded that it was prudent to adjust the dividend. Accordingly, on February 25, 2026, our board of directors declared a quarterly dividend of $0.31 per share for stockholders of record as of March 10, 2026, payable on March 26, 2026. With that, I will now turn this call over to Ted.

Ted McNulty: Thank you, Tanner. Good morning, everyone. I am going to spend a few moments reviewing our fourth quarter investment activity and then provide some details on our investment portfolio. MidCap Financial Investment Corporation's new commitments in the December quarter totaled $141 million, with a weighted average spread of 497 basis points across 26 different companies. The weighted average net leverage on new commitments was 4.0x in the December quarter. Gross fundings, excluding revolvers and Merx, totaled $156 million. Sales and repayments, excluding revolvers and Merx, totaled $119 million. Net revolver fundings were approximately $12 million. As previously mentioned, we received a $7.5 million paydown from Merx. In aggregate, net fundings for the December quarter were positive $25 million.

Shifting to our investment portfolio. At the end of December, our portfolio had a fair value of $3.17 billion and was invested in 247 companies across 46 different industries. Direct origination and other represented 96% of the total portfolio. Merx represented 3% of the total portfolio. Liquid positions acquired from our mergers with two funds in 2024 totaled 1%. All of these figures are on a fair value basis. Specific to the direct origination portfolio, at the end of December, 99% was first lien and 92% was backed by financial sponsors, both on a fair value basis. The average funded position was $12.8 million. The median EBITDA was approximately $50 million.

Approximately 94% had one or more financial covenants on a cost basis. Covenant quality is a key point of differentiation for the core middle market, as substantially all of our deals have at least one covenant. The weighted average yield at cost of our direct origination portfolio was 10% on average for the December quarter, down from 10.3% for the September quarter. The sequential decrease in the portfolio yield was driven by lower base rates, the placement of higher-yielding assets on non-accrual status, as well as the decline in the average spread across the portfolio.

At the end of December, the weighted average spread on the directly originated corporate lending portfolio was 546 basis points, down 13 basis points compared to the end of September.

Next, I will make a few comments about our software exposure, given concerns about potential AI disruption to software borrowers. You can find details on our software exposure on page 5 of the earnings supplement. As of December 31, 2025, software represented just 11.4% of MidCap Financial Investment Corporation's portfolio at fair value, which is well below the BDC industry average. These positions are primarily cash pay, 100% first lien, and highly diversified across 29 borrowers, with an average position size of $12 million. Our software book is diversified across a wide range of end markets and carries a low average LTV of 32%. The median EBITDA of our software portfolio companies is $52 million.

Only two borrowers are PIK; income from our software portfolio is de minimis. The weighted average interest coverage of our software portfolio is 2.3x, in line with the overall portfolio. The weighted average net leverage is 4.6x, modestly below the overall portfolio, and the weighted average spread of the portfolio is 548 basis points, roughly in line with the total overall portfolio. MidCap's approach to lending to software companies has remained consistent, though we have become more selective in the current environment. Our strategy is always centered on borrowers with mission-critical products, high switching costs, and strong revenue visibility supported by long-term contracts.

Moving to credit quality on the overall portfolio. Investments on non-accrual status declined to 2.6% of the portfolio at fair value, down from 3.1% at the end of the prior quarter. During the quarter, we restored two companies to accrual status, including our investment in LendingPoint following its restructuring, as well as our investment in Compass Health, which was fully repaid after the company's sale in February. We recognized a net gain of approximately $1 million on Compass Health in the December quarter, reflecting an increase in its valuation from 84 at the end of September to 94.5 at the end of December.

We were repaid at par in February, and an additional gain of approximately $0.5 million will be recorded in the March quarter. This is an example of our ability to maximize value from challenged names. During the quarter, we placed three investments on non-accrual status, including our investments in Bird Rides, Banner Solutions, and Renovo. These three names accounted for about 36% of the total net loss for the quarter. Underlying portfolio company credit metrics were relatively stable quarter-over-quarter. Borrower net leverage or debt to EBITDA was 5.29x at the end of December, unchanged from the end of September.

The weighted average interest coverage ratio improved to 2.3x, up from 2.2x last quarter, driven primarily by lower base rates and to a lesser extent, by earnings growth. We believe the steady revolver utilization rate we see from our borrowers is an indicator of greater financial stability and provides us with incremental and more frequent financial information. Revolving facilities provide insight into a company's liquidity position through draw behavior. At the end of December, the percentage of our leveraged lending revolver commitments that were drawn was essentially flat compared to the prior quarter. PIK income represented 4.8% of total investment income for the December quarter, roughly stable quarter-over-quarter.

With that, I will now turn the call over to Kenny to discuss our financial results in detail.

Kenneth Seifert: Thank you, Ted. Good morning, everyone. Total investment income for the December quarter was approximately $78.4 million, a decline of $4.2 million, or 5.1% from the prior quarter. This reduction was largely driven by lower interest income resulting from decreased base rates, new non-accrual positions, and continued asset spread compression. Weighted average yield at cost of our directly originated lending portfolio averaged 10% for the December quarter, compared to 10.3% in the previous quarter. Prepayment income was approximately $2.4 million, down from $3.2 million last quarter. Fee income was approximately $1.0 million, up from about $0.5 million last quarter. Dividend income was $231,000, relatively flat quarter-over-quarter.

Our net expenses for the quarter were $42.4 million, a decline of $4.9 million, or 10.4% from the prior quarter. This decline was driven primarily by the absence of incentive fees, reflecting the impact of the total return hurdle feature, which eliminated the incentive fee, as well as lower interest expense, partially offset by higher administrative services. Portfolio had a net loss of $45.3 million, or $0.49 per share. Negative contributors for the quarter included our investments in LendingPoint, Renovo, Amperity, Bird Rides, New Era, and Banner Solutions, among others. Positive contributors to performance for the quarter included our investment in Merx and Compass Health, among others.

As discussed on last quarter's call, in October, we extended and repriced our revolving credit facility, and we upsized and repriced our first CLO. In connection with these financing activities, we recorded a realized loss of approximately $3.4 million, or $0.04 per share, in the December quarter. Cost of debt for the quarter declined to 5.95%, down from 6.37% in the prior quarter, largely driven by these refinancing activities as well as lower base rates. For the December quarter, net investment income per share was $0.39. GAAP net loss per share was $0.14, or $0.10 excluding the aforesaid impact related to the one-time financing costs.

Turning to the balance sheet, at the end of December, the portfolio had a fair value of $3.17 billion. Total principal debt outstanding was $2.0 billion. Total net assets stood at $1.31 billion, or $14.18 per share. The company ended the quarter at 1.45x net leverage. Gross fundings for the quarter, excluding revolvers, totaled $156 million, and net fundings for the quarter were +$25 million. This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, please open the call to questions.

Operator: Certainly. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now open for questions. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one. You can remove yourself from the queue by pressing star two. Again, star one for questions. We will go first this morning to Richard Shane with J.P. Morgan.

Richard Shane: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions this morning. You know, look, our pattern on all these calls recently has been to ask about buying back stock, and you guys have leaned into that a little bit. You know, look, we follow Apollo Commercial ARI. They recently made a very interesting strategic decision, sort of looking at the landscape for different types of closed-end funds and these types of vehicles. I am curious, as you guys sort of look forward, what you think the future is. You know, for now, it looks like some of these discounts are going to be pretty persistent. Makes it hard to grow these vehicles.

Does it make sense to continue to run MidCap Financial Investment Corporation in this way, or would you consider some more aggressive strategies to sort of unlock that value?

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Howard Widra: Yeah, this is Howard. I mean, I think we will consider everything. If we continue to perceive that the discount is unconnected to the value, I think it is sort of the point we are trying to make, it is like our obligation. It was true with ARI, too. Our obligation is to get the shareholders what their true return should be. I think you are pointing out the right issues. I mean, I think we still have to see how it plays out. The persistence of these discounts certainly, I agree, feels likely given everything that is going on across the whole market right now, but things can change.

The answer is, we will continue to consider everything with an eye towards just making sure that the shareholders get the full value that we feel like they are entitled to in whatever form we can get it to them.

Richard Shane: Got it. I appreciate that. I was almost hoping I was going to get a Gregory Hunt answer to my question, just so I could feel like an episode of This Is Your Life.

Howard Widra: Yeah.

Richard Shane: Thanks for taking my questions this morning, everybody.

Operator: Thank you. We will go next now to Kenneth Lee with RBC.

Kenneth Lee: Hey, good morning, and thanks for taking my question. Just to follow up on the repurchases there. To clarify, the new $100 million, is it discretionary? I assume that the normal restrictions of open trading windows apply there if that is the case, but just wanted to check on that. Thanks.

Tanner Powell: Yeah, that is exactly right, Ken. Thanks for the question. As we noted in the prepared remarks, and as you alluded to, you do enter quiet periods, and for those periods, we would expect to implement a 10b5-1 that would enable us to be in market during those periods, such that we can maximize our share purchase activity. I would also call your attention to the comment we made in the prepared remarks, whereby if the current level of activity continues, we would expect to be able to exhaust our current authorization by late May.

Kenneth Lee: Gotcha. Very helpful there. Just one follow-up, if I may, just around dividends. In terms of the new level here, I wonder if you could just talk a little bit more about some of the macro assumptions that went to that, and what gives you confidence that the new level is going to be sustainable over a certain period of time? Thanks.

Tanner Powell: Yeah, sure. Certainly, as we undertake these models and try to sensitize to the myriad factors that can influence, our assessment was that when we looked at the earnings power and we looked at the models, $0.31 was appropriate and achievable. We have taken the action this quarter, and certainly, as I think we telegraphed in previous quarters, the move from rates from 5.4 to the 3.8 level, compounded by spreads in our primary market coming down, have certainly influenced the earnings power. We have made a lot of progress, as we have called out, with Merx. The Merx exposure is yielding roughly 2% on our books today.

As that comes back, and we would expect the balance of our exposure to be, or lion's share of our exposure to be, repaid in the next 12 months. That presents some opportunity to cushion the dividend as well as also the capital structure initiatives that we have undertaken to reduce our cost of capital on our CLO, our first Bethesda CLO, as well as our revolver, which we were able to price down, as ways to mitigate the effects of lower base rates and the current spread environment.

Kenneth Lee: Gotcha. Very helpful there. Thanks again.

Operator: Thank you. Just a quick reminder, ladies and gentlemen, star one for questions today. We will go next now to Robert James Dodd with Raymond James.

Robert James Dodd: Morning, everybody. First, yeah, to applaud the expansion of the buyback, but not just that, but the aggressive plan to use it. I think that is kind of the confidence boost that shareholders need. Not particularly, not just the annual accretion, but that you have got the liquidity to actually do that. On the main other question is, to flip to software, you have below average exposure, right? 11.5%. Not only that, I appreciate the other metrics that you gave, but the net leverage in your software book is 4.5. There is a lot of fear out there, some of it probably well-placed, that the software leverage might not apply, right?

There might not even be EBITDA, but if it does exist, the leverage is much higher. That sticks for me. Can you tell us the type of businesses that enable you to get software exposure with portfolio average spreads and net leverage that is likely at least a turn, if not more below, kind of what the market expectation is for the amount of leverage that is on a software business?

Howard Widra: Yeah. This is Howard. Let me try to take a crack at that because some of this is derivative of what MidCap originates. MidCap has financed itself historically through bank lines and CLOs. Availability of credit on both of those was limited to effectively 6 times EBITDA and not really ARR availability. What we originated into as the market sort of elevated to doing 7, 8 times deals or even just doing ARR-only deals, it was not where we focused. We focused on companies that inherently were already cash long and had more embedded consistency in their performance.

In other words, did not need to spend huge amounts of money to continue to drive growth to get to some outside valuation, which obviously can be a great equity thesis, but sometimes it is a debt. What ended up being the MidCap Financial Investment Corporation share of that was that portion of the portfolio, if that makes sense. It was sort of an offset of the strategy that MidCap had, which was driven some. It was not like we had an unbelievably special sauce where we found different deals than other people found. It is that those deals that we tried to win met those criteria.

Tanner Powell: I would emphasize, Robert, as we have talked with you in the past, as a derivative of MidCap and our focus on the middle market, the average level core size of $52 million, and importantly, in those software names in our software book, 90% has financial covenants. There is also an element of it which is related to the part of the market that we are focusing on, and also anchored to the dynamics that Howard mentioned with respect to our financing and how we have approached our entire business and software.

Robert James Dodd: Got it. Got it. Thank you. I appreciate that incremental color, and again, congrats on the buyback.

Operator: Thank you. We will go next now to Casey Alexander with Compass Point.

Casey Alexander: Yeah, good morning, and thank you for taking my questions. My first, really only question is pretty simple. Your statement that the handful of credits all share a similar vintage suggests that there is a common thread that runs through the issue there. I was wondering if you could speak to what the common thread is that ties them together that emanates from that particular vintage?

Howard Widra: I do not think there is a new common thread other than these are not new issues that have come up. These are credits that we have been working through over time. Although the markdowns were a little bit higher than we wanted this quarter, it was not like there was some precipitous change of what is going on. These are longer-dated credits, many of which have been on the watch list for a while.

Tanner Powell: I would emphasize also, to some extent, the seasoning of a portfolio—it is natural that the vintage would be several years prior. Obviously, in that intervening time, we had the increase of rates, with some level of support or moderation with the recent decline. Then, to your point about common themes, we have talked with you, Casey, and the market about pockets of stress in the market, notwithstanding a fairly sanguine economic environment. We have talked about the lower end of the K.

When we look at these credits, they often have idiosyncratic issues that are sometimes compounded by some of those pockets of stress and, in particular, some self-induced, such as acquisition strategies that either were not properly integrated and/or were very aggressive, which has compounded some of those thematic elements. It is a balance of idiosyncratic issues within those credits. The vintage happened to be one where you would naturally start to see some deterioration in terms of where you do have problems, and in the intervening four years, there has been a steep increase to borrowing rates, base rates, that has affected the companies as well.

Casey Alexander: All right. Thank you for taking my question.

Operator: Thank you. Just a final reminder, ladies and gentlemen, any further questions today, please press star one, and we will pause for just one moment. Ladies and gentlemen, it appears we have no further questions today. I would like to turn the conference back to management for any closing comments.

Howard Widra: Thank you, operator. Thank you everyone for listening to today's call. On behalf of the entire team, we thank you for your time today. Please feel free to reach out to us if you have any other questions. Have a good day.

Operator: Thank you. Again, ladies and gentlemen, that will conclude the MidCap Financial Investment Corporation's earnings call. Thanks so much for joining us, everyone. We wish you all a great day.

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